Sunday, September 07, 2008

Discipleship. Historians, and Jesus

So I was at Worship Generation tonight and had a few new ideas for ministries. They are not fully formed yet, but one of them is D&D. Discipleship and Dinner. I haven't discipled anyone for a few years now and I miss it. On the bike ride home and the walk with Snaps afterward, I wrote this in my head.

Thoughts on Discipleship

The most difficult thing about discipleship is getting over your own pride. It's a constant battle that needs to be fought and won every time you meet. As a discipler, it's easy to think that you are a very spiritual person and are doing things right because this person is following you and taking what you say to heart. Disciples follow and become like those who disciple them. It's like trying to mold your heart to look like the one you are following. That being so, it is easy to give worldly advice disguised as Godly advice because you feel good about this person trying to be like you, so you say what you would do. That's wrong.

Jesus told His disciples to make disciples of all the world. Paul said to follow me as I follow Christ and that is exactly what they need to see. The aim of my discipleship is to help my disciples listen to God directly. Once they can do that, they don't need me anymore. That doesn't mean we can't be friends, but after that, all I can say is... did you pray about it yet? What did God say? You should do that. That should be the goal of all discipleship, that the disciples would learn to follow Christ and the way they do that is by watching us follow Christ.

So I was thinking of offering my dinnertimes on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays to anyone (guy) who wants to be discipled. (If you are a girl and want to be discipled, I can help you fine one. If you want, I'll come up with a list of questions to ask people and what the answers should be. (That sounds like a fun exercise. If you don't see it up here soon, ask me about it.)) As for dinners, we will eat in or go out. Whatever. I like food. If you're interested, leave a comment and I will email you.

So I was eating dinner in Taco Bell earlier and as I ate, I wrote this in my head:

Why I don't trust Historians.

Historians are like gossipers, but the people they gossip about are usually dead. Also, no historian is ever fully trusted. The old greek historians like Herdotus get their stories from other people (Greeks or Persians) who have passed down these stories from oral tradition. Now I like stories, but in reading history books, I've learned that historians do nothing but quote other historians. He said that he said that this other guy said that he heard this story once. First hand accounts are hard to find for the ancient world, and even those have a spin put on them becasue they are written with a bias. I read in this history book about a Sumaritan king who withdrew from battle because the Goddess he was fighting for felt sorry for his opponents and didn't want them distroyed. So even first hands accounts can't really be trusted. Is it that impossible to find out what really happened? Who knows what is true when the only thing that survives the centuries are clay tablets from people that no one even remembers. Archeologests and palentologists do their best to deduce what things were like from the clues they find, but they are just guessing. It's like getting thousands of puzzle pieces from different puzzles that are all mixed together and trying to make a picture when you don't even know what it is supposed to be like. So what they do, along with the help of historians, is make up what they think happened, and see if all the pieces fit somewhere in that theory. (Same type of reasoning with Evolution.)

So historians pick and choose what parts of other historical books can be trusted and publish it in their own books so other people can do the same to them. The difference between those history books and the Bible is that the Bible is all written either first hand or second hand. If the person writing the book wasn't actually there, then God told them what to write. (We see this in some of the Prophetic books where God commands the writer not to write something down. We read the command, but not what was not supposed to be written.) That's how we know that God created the world, because He told us. We dont' have to prove it or argue for it. We know it to be true and if anyone wants to believe something else, it's like a dog chasing after his own tail. (My dog doesn't do this, mostly because she only has a nub back there.) It looks silly, accomplishes nothing except makes the dog tired, and everyone gets a good laugh at the futility. This doesn't mean I'm going to stop reading history. I still think that the stories are entertaining and at least help me get an idea of what might have happened, but I'm not putting my trust in those "facts." I will just trust the Bible.

So I had a lot of thinking time today. It came after a lot of church. Last night, I sat in on a Kindergarten-1st grade class on the Armor of God. This morning, Pastor Sam taught the letter to Ephesus in the book of Revelation. Then I went into the 4th -6th grade class for a lesson from 1 Samuel about the ark being captured. 3rd service was spent in the High School class on Hebrews 1. The teacher teaching 1 Samuel said it would be wrong to trust in a Guardian Angel as a substitute for having a relationship with Jesus. I was thinking that I have a Guardian Jesus.

I love my God.

1 comment:

Kristen said...

I really enjoyed your discussion on discipleship, there are times when I am tempted to be prideful too :)